Hot Take: Let's Talk About The WNBA Draft

Amira and Lindsay break down the WNBA Draft.

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Amira: Hey flamethrowers, Amira here, along with Lindsay, and we're bringing you a hot take. The WNBA draft happened last night, on Friday on ESPN, and we have a lots of thoughts and some questions. We'll see how this goes. You have your two Gemini ADHD people on this hot take. [Lindsay laughs] So our minds are spinning and going lots of places. Let's keep up with us. Thanks. Okay. So, first and foremost, I feel like the draft was largely a tale of two halves. There was a lot of things that I really liked and there's a lot of things that I side-eyed. So Lindsay, I want to start with you. General takeaways?

Lindsay: I think the first half went pretty well. The tribute to Alyssa and Payton and Gigi and giving them their honorary draft picks had me bawling. That was very well done. There weren't as many technical difficulties as I would have expected, with the fact that it was a virtual draft. And I think that overall, that had to be like a really complicated production. They were the first league out the door trying this and, you know, yes, there were some awkward moments, but overall I think like, you know, in the first round and stuff, it went pretty well. And then when it just like, you know, what I would give like a D to at the best is the second half when they decided that after Crystal Dangerfield was picked at 16 to Minnesota, they just started like zooming through the rest of the picks. Like, it went to commercial and they came back from commercial and they just flashed on the screen who picks 17 to 20 were. And then everyone was like, wait, what?

And then they showed one more live, and then it was into the third round. And they would just flash on the screen a group of like four or five picks at once. And it went by, like, I couldn't keep up with what was happening. I had no idea. And it was really sad because instead of doing this, they did an interview with the commissioner, which could have been done at any time. And they did a nice tribute to Kobe Bryant, which, you know, was nice, but also, they opened it up with a tribute, and that also could have been done at any time. And personally, I mean, I feel like Kobe would have wanted these players being drafted to have their moments, you know? It just felt ridiculous that they decided that nobody would really care about the entire second half of the draft. I don't know. It just made me very angry because there's literally no excuse because there's literally nothing else going on in the sports world.

Amira: Yeah, totally. I mean, I would say that the beginning of the draft, we didn't know what to expect. What does a virtual draft look like? And I was really touched by the way that they honored Gigi and Payton and Alyssa, and had the videos from their family, you know, Vanessa Bryant just killed me. It was also a little bit of emotional whiplash because I think we're all like so energetic and hype about the draft. And I felt like people on Twitter and IG, like, everybody was like, it's draft time! And then Cathy popped up and it was a little bit solemn, and it was like COVID, and then it was like Kobe and then the girls, and then cut to Sue Bird and CBA. And then it was like, and New York is on the clock! And in the span of six minutes, I feel like I've felt like 15 emotions. And so that was a lot at the beginning. And then I was really into the swag bags that they delivered to people.

Lindsay: Yeah. That was cool.

Amira: It was very like Ivy Park-like, like Beyoncé's delivery, that it had hats from every team and a basketball and like a key chain. So I was very into like looking at the displays behind people, which I guess leads us into the actual…What was your favorite house? What was your favorite kind of moment or takeaway from the actual draftees getting to celebrate with their families? 

Lindsay: I mean, Satou Sabally looked just so good that it's hard stop with that. She just looked so amazing, but I just, like, I don't feel like I got enough. I mean, Chennedy Carter's family was great. Megan Walker, was it her…She was the family who went wild, right?

Amira: Yeah.

Lindsay: Like, that was the family that like “won.” It was like, okay, everyone else, match this energy. So there were some really like sweet moments and there were some fun family moments, but I think overall what I felt like was…And this just goes back, like, I think the whole thing should have been three hours, you know? There was no need to crunch this all into two hours. It just was so rushed, I just felt like. And so then it would be these awkward moments, like there were a couple of players, like Ruthy Hebard, who, her connection wasn't working right, you know?

Amira: They flashed to her, and she hadn't seen it yet.

Lindsay: She hadn’t seen it yet, but then, because they were in such a time crunch, they couldn't go back to her, you know? And like, that was just sad. They should have time to go back to her, you know? And you know, I think there were a few other players that had that happen. And like I said, we only saw 16 reactions, period. So we didn't, you know, really get to see any other than that. But I would have to say that Megan Walker's family, you know, their excitement was what I wish we had really gotten from everyone.

Amira: Yeah. I was having a lot of fun with not only the outfits, like yeah, shoutout to Satou, and then also her background. And also that she was like for the culture, African, you know, it was like, represent, I love it. I love families, I love…Black people were like, you know, about this social distancing… [laughter]

Lindsay: I know. I was about to say, those people were not all quarantined together. 

Amira: I was like, yeah. They're like, you're not going to tell me that I'm not going to celebrate. [laughter] That was a little humorous. Also, like the way Chennedy was holding the phone on speakerphone was just…

Lindsay: Oh my god. It was so bad.

Amira: Somebody pass the baby some AirPods. But so there's like some fun moments like that. It was really great. You know, I was really broken up for some people like Satou, whose family was on Zoom in Berlin and, you know, as a reminder that even though some houses were packed, there was a very real distancing to this moment of celebration. And so you have that, and then let's just talk the technical aspect of it. What team coming out of draft do you most have your eyes on? 

Lindsay: Gosh, this is hard. I mean, you know, there's some exciting pieces in New York, for sure. I mean, you know, Sabrina went to New York, and everything kind of surrounding that was fun and good. And I mean, I often get really frustrated, and I mean, I'm not saying that it's the exact same thing as Serena Williams. Me and you've talked a lot about how often, you know, people will be like, oh, I covered Serena Williams, which means I'm covering all of women's tennis. Do you know what I mean? It's like, no, no. You're covering one person. You're covering one superstar. 

Amira: And also that one kind of spotlight can obscure the other kind of stories. 

Lindsay: Right, and I think we got like Dawn Staley hasn't called out Sabrina, you know, by name, and I'm sure that…You know, I mean, look, she's the coach of Team USA. She's going to love Sabrina, you know? But I think Dawn Staley definitely just felt like, you know, a lot of the media this year focused on Sabrina and considered that covering women's basketball. And then so many stories went untold, and of course, unfortunately we never got to see…I mean, we never got to see, you know, there are more stories told in general during the tournament, right? So, we never got to get that. And so that was tough. But I do think that at the end of the day, like, it was hard for me to be as frustrated about this as I usually would be because like I was on these media calls this week and the New York Post and the New York Daily News were on them – and that never happens. And like, it is so good for the league, right, that the biggest name is going to be in Brooklyn and like not in Westchester, you know? 

Amira: Right.

Lindsay: So, I am really excited for that. And you know, was excited to see that all kind of come to fruition. And so I think, you know, I'm excited to see what New York is building. I think the Chicago Sky got some really big pieces with the addition of Ruthy. They're like the eighth pick, and a few of their later picks. You know, I think with the Chicago Sky, they got Kiah Gillespie really late, and I actually really, really love Kiah Gillespie’s game. So, I'm kind of excited to see what happens with them if they're able to take a leap. I think it's gonna be harder for them to take a leap because they don't have the superstar superstars a lot of these super teams have. But Atlanta, I mean, having Chennedy Carter and Courtney Williams! [laughs] 

Amira: First of all, pause about the personalities.

Lindsay: I texted Elizabeth Williams, a friend of the show, who’s a center for them, and she's like the most mild-mannered, calm. And I was like, girl, you got your hands full! [laughs]

Amira: Oh my god. And then Lil Wayne was like, “Hollywood’s coming to the Dream!” And I was like, oh my…I mean, look, I'm on here for it. [laughs] 

Lindsay: It just gets better because it’s Kelly Loeffler’s team. [laughs] 

Amira: Exactly, exactly. [laughs] 

Lindsay: And Nicki Collen, who I love, but is like very white girl, like me, you know what I mean? Is like the head coach. And it's just like Tiffany Hayes and co you know, and Kalani Brown's going to be there too. No, it was just pure attitude. Like, it’s going to be a lot. And Glory Johnson. Oh my god. That is a team that is going to be fun.

Amira: They literally need a reality TV show. Like, Atlanta's good for these things.

Lindsay: [laughs] I don't think anybody’s ready for that.

Amira: I’m ready for it.

Lindsay: [laughs] Besides the two of us. Oh my god. 

Amira: No, I mean, it's going to be very exciting to watch the Dream. 

Lindsay: Yeah. And I think, you know, like there are some teams that are kind of in rebuilding mode a little bit, like the Dallas Wings. And I do think they got, you know, they got Satou, which is phenomenal and, you know, they had Arike who is a rookie of the year candidate. And now they also were able to draft at point guard Ty Harris from South Carolina. And so that'll really help because of course last year they had Arike completely running the point, even though she's not a point guard. So, you know, I think I'm excited, but that roster is gonna be tough to make. They have so many players. 

Amira: And I also wanted to shout out another player the Wings picked up, which is Bella Alarie from Princeton.

Lindsay: Yes! I forgot they got her too. She’s so good.

Amira: So good. And of course, coming from the Ivy League was a little under the radar, but my best friend worked at Princeton in the athletics department for a little bit when their basketball team was like really defying expectation. And so it was a really been fun to watch her kind of journey, which was like both under the radar and also like lately in the last few weeks she's been popping up on mock drafts, of course. But even when she was drafted, I felt like it was this moment where people were like, oh, who? Wait, what? And I love that when they did the interview with her, she was sitting in front of bookcases, and I was like, this is the most Princeton shit. [laughs]

Lindsay: It’s very Princeton. Her dad was a Duke player and tried to get Duke to recruit her and Duke wasn't interested and, you know, so she went to Princeton. And she's like 6’5” and very good. And you know, I heard a lot of comparisons that, you know, Jonquel Jones fell to sixth in the draft a few years ago. And a lot of that was because she had spent her time at GW, you know, she left Clemson and gone to GW. And so while she was rated high talent-wise, a lot of people were afraid to draft her in the WNBA’s version of a lottery, which is a top four, you know, because just like she hadn't been maybe proven against the most elite competition and hadn't really been in the Team USA radar, of course because she's not from the United States. And so I've heard some comparisons that Bella could be like a Jonquel Jones-like steal, you know, at like five or six, one where everyone kind of knows she's that talented, but are a little bit afraid because they haven't seen her on the biggest stages.

Amira: Yeah, no, totally. I think that's true. And yeah, I think that more will be made of the fact, of course, that her dad was a former first round pick in the NBA and, you know, she has a story that's like ready packaged.

Lindsay: Jay Bilas is her godfather. Yeah. [laughter]

Amira: Yeah. So, it's certainly interesting. I also have to say, my favorite moment was Erica Ogwumike getting drafted, and it was one of those names again that got flashed up in the second half of the draft when it went off the wheels a little bit, but her and her sisters obviously were celebrating and they were on IG live. But they were also on IG live when it flashed that she got traded to the Lynx. And so it was this moment where, oh my goodness, she's been drafted, celebrated, three sisters in the league. And then in the midst of that, like, oh, psych, hold on, you're going to Minnesota instead. [laughs] And we got real time reactions from that, but not on the television, like, you had to be on Instagram.

Lindsay: And I couldn’t find that Instagram live. You need to send it to me, because I literally was trying to find it last night and I couldn't find it.

Amira: Her and Chiney and Nneka were all live. [laughter] 

Lindsay: See, that’s too confusing for me to find! [laughter] I also don't know if they saved…Because I think I went to all their profiles and there were no lives saved. 

Amira: Somebody took a still of it. 

Lindsay: I know. I did see the still.

Amira: Yeah. I'll see if I find it, but it was, you know…And I also want to shout her out. Her draft day outfit was like really dressy on top, and then she was wearing Vans because nobody could see her feet. [laughs] So, I appreciate that. And I'm just thrilled for all three sisters to, you know, have that kind of trio in the league. All four of them including Olivia are phenomenal women. Shoutout Erica’s YouTube page, which gives you all the content you ever need.

Lindsay: She's amazing. So, okay. But a funny moment. So, earlier this week, the WNBA had a call with like four coaches or GMs and Cheryl Reeve was one of them, and someone from Texas – who, of course, I'm sure covered her at Rice, because that's where she went, Rice University – asked Cheryl Reeve about…Oh my god, the third Ogwumike, we were just talking about her!

Amira: Olivia? [laughter] Erica?

Lindsay: Yes, Erica! Thank you. Oh my god. My brain is fried. Okay. About Erica Ogwumike. And Cheryl Reeve was like silent, and it was such an awkward moment. And then Walt at the New York Liberty was like, yeah, I haven't really scouted her, paid attention to her. And so then we were joking in our chat with other writers last night, like, that that's such a Cheryl Reeve thing to do, to like pretend like she has never watched this player before and do this totally awkward moment and then to trade for her. [laughs] Kind of like a peak Cheryl Reeve move.

Amira: Chess, not checkers, bitches. [laughter]

Lindsay: Yeah. It was just like…Because someone was like, wow, that's weird that there was that awkward pause, you know, and Cheryl acted like she'd never heard of Erica Ogwumike. And then somebody else is like, no, that's classic Cheryl. That is classic Cheryl. 

Amira: Well, two more things I want to ask you about, and if you have any other points to say. One, I promised Shireen when we were talking about what we were gonna say that everybody knows she is now the Liberty’s biggest fan. 

Lindsay: Oh my god. 

Amira: She already was, because Kia is there. But now since they have half of UConn she's literally crowned herself the biggest Liberty fan. She is a stan and she will get all the jerseys. She will be there for all the games. She wanted everybody to know how she's suddenly become their number one fan. Don't get it twisted. Shireen Ahmed, New York Liberty, match made in heaven.

Lindsay: Because they got Megan, that's why. Because they added Megan Walker to their crew. 

Amira: Yeah. And then I just want to talk about that in a second, speaking of jerseys, Sabrina's jersey sold out in less than an hour, and while that's obviously fantastic and shows–

Lindsay: Is it? [laughs]

Amira: Well, it's fantastic in the fact that there's such a need for it, but also it's really hard as many people, including yourself, point out, because again we're in this situation where people are under estimating the value and the demand for women's sports and especially merchandise. And this reminds me, of course, when you know, after the women's team won the world cup and you couldn't find any four-star paraphernalia whatsoever, it sold out very fast. And so, you know, we should definitely take a minute and say, another kind of ridiculous point, a mini burn, if you will, like, stock these things!

Lindsay: Yeah. Yeah. I was frustrated by it because I just don't think people were like, oh, it's good, like, at least they're getting the headlines. And I was like, Sabrina doesn't need these headlines. The WNBA doesn't need these manufactured headlines, right? Like about demand. The demand is really there. And I always just get frustrated about merchandise and I don't believe the WNBA or Nike deserves the benefit of the doubt when it comes to merchandise for women's sports. Like, some people were saying, oh, well, they're selling it with the number one because she's number one draft pick, but these won't be the jersey, so they don't want to sell too many of them. And I was like, well, then just take pre-orders for the actual jerseys when they have her number on them. Do you know what I mean?

Amira: Yeah, it’s not that hard. [laughs] You do this all the time. It's okay.

Lindsay: That seems like a super easy solution. Take people's fucking money for women's sports merchandise. 

Amira: Well, I do have to say about that reminds me, if you still need masks, you know the WNBA and the NBA are selling masks, but specifically you can get it from…What is that, where the proceeds that…

Lindsay: BreakingT. Yeah. We love them.

Amira: Yeah. BreakingT. The WNBPA, so they have the Bet On Women mask. It's a pack, a 3 pack. And it also does the NWSL. And then the US women's team 4 stars only. It's a 3 pack. So if you still need masks, shout out to them.

Lindsay: I’m ordering them immediately. 

Amira: Yes. It's a necessary purchase. And then I just want to throw any other random thoughts you had, random takeaways you had about the draft? I'll tell you my random takeaway. 

Lindsay: I have so many, I have so many things left to say. So, you go.

Amira: One of my random takeaways is the parts of the draft where they had random people pop in to congratulate draftees was at times really, really sweet. And also, so random.

Lindsay: I don't feel like Lauren Cox knew who Kevin Love was. [laughs] 

Amira: That was so…I lost it when Simone Biles popped up, because I was like, what, what? Were they friends? Was there a story there?

Lindsay: I actually loved that, because at least it was a woman.

Amira: Yeah. But I wanted to know more about how this…Like, I felt like there was a packaged story about why this congratulation, like, I needed a little bit more context.

Lindsay: And that's the thing. And like, I was reading through Lauren Cox's interviews. So, Lauren Cox was drafted by Indiana. So now we're going to get to see, if you are fans of NCAA women's basketball, you might love this: we'll get to see Lauren Cox and Teaira McCowan together in a front court, which is really amazing. And she was talking last night about how, like, you know, she was like, you know, I don't know Teaira very well, but I play with Kalani Brown. You know, of course they won the national championship at Baylor. So she was like, I'm really excited, because I think this'll be really fun. And I agree, like, Indiana, they're not going to be like an elite team this year, but they have such a fun, young core. Oh my gosh. I'm excited about that team for the future. But yeah, somebody asked, like, local media asked Lauren about Kevin Love and she was like, yeah…I like his game. [laughs] Just like, there is no connection.

Amira: [laughs] It’s so random.

Lindsay: She looked fabulous though, in like a blue wrap dress. 

Amira: Yes, and lashes. 

Lindsay: Great lashes.

Amira: And I Have to say, I love Lauren. You know, I got to be around her when Alexis was playing at Baylor and, you know, her journey, particularly with type one diabetes has been really inspiring. So it was a thrill to watch her be drafted.

Lindsay: Yes. So, a few other players that I had my eye on, of course, you all know that I've covered the Mystics and Maryland women's basketball. So, Kaila Charles dropped into this late into the second round, which unfortunately kind of thought was going to happen. But she ended up going to Connecticut at number 23. And I actually love that for her because, first of all, Connecticut said that they had her as a top 10 talent on their draft board, but Connecticut didn't have a first round pick because they traded away when they got DeWanna Bonner, and so they were like shocked when she was still there. She's still there because she has not developed a three point shot, which is something that's very much confused me over the past year, because she has everything else in her game. But I really hope she has a chance to make that roster. There are now three Maryland players, you know, she's with Alyssa Thomas and Bri Jones, who used to be her teammate. Bri was a senior when Kaila was a freshman.

And, you know, Kaila’s just I think a player that got really overlooked, and I also think a player that really, you know, I think I said this in the last podcast, but would have really benefited from a deep run in the tournament to kind of remind people that she existed a little bit, because Maryland was slated to be a number one seed. But yeah, so I'm excited to see how she does in Connecticut, and I'll be paying attention to whether she can make the roster there. And Shatori Walker-Kimbrough, who was one of my favorite players to cover for the Mystics, she was traded last week – which we haven't talked about – a trade that brought Tina Charles to the Washington Mystics, which, holy crap! [laughs] And so Washington gave up like all their draft picks and Shatori Walker-Kimbrough went to New York, where I was a little bit concerned because they have like a trillion guards in New York.

But then on draft night, she was actually traded to the Phoenix Mercury for a 10th round pick. And so I'm excited. I think that once again it seems like listening…Of course, teams always say they want the players, but they actually actually seem to have like Shatori in their plans. Do you know what I mean? And like, see her as a player that can automatically contribute. And she's just one of those players that I've been wanting…Like she got kind of buried in the Mystics rotation, and I think for a lot of different reasons, but always had a lot of talent when she could get a chance. So I hope that she’ll have a chance to shine in Phoenix, which has, you know, of course such a deep roster. But that was exciting for me to see. Oh, can we say another one of the reactions was Jocelyn Willoughby’s reaction. 

Amira: Yes. I want to let everybody know, for more on the Mystics, please check out Lindsay's article about why the Mystics won the draft before it even began. It's in Washington City Paper, and it goes a little bit deeper into that trade. And I think that is definitely worth your time, for some who didn't make draft day moves as big splashes as the Liberty, but still are clearly defending champs. And you know, not showing any kind of signs of slowing down.

Lindsay: Yeah. And, okay, so just to add, like, Jocelyn Willoughby, do you remember her reaction? She was sitting alone and her reaction–

Amira: Yeah! It was the emotion.

Lindsay: It was the most pure. So, she was the one who was actually drafted by Phoenix, but then she ended up getting traded to the Liberty for Shatori. But like, it was just such a pure moment of her sitting there by herself. Like, I think her family just was off screen. And it was so intimate, like, seeing her realize her dreams had come true, like it was really sweet.

Amira: She was like, “Oh my!” [laughter] It was very touching. And I think that was really important because sometimes with the overproduction of drafts, as we've come to know, 

the emotion gets lost in it. And for these women, they've worked very hard. They've had an unprecedented year, certainly. And they're doing this now virtual draft, but at the end of the day, for 36 people, their dreams of being professional basketball players, a generation who came up with always having that in existence, even if it wasn't always the most visible, this is really significant. And I think that emotion was so pure and really captured what's at the heart of a lot of this. And so I loved it. Absolutely.

Lindsay: Yeah. And I think that, you know, overall, it's just going to be…There’s a part of me that felt as I was watching this draft that we were failing these women, because there's just so few roster spots. And like the Mystics this year, they're probably only going to play 11 because they're paying so many elite players, you know? So they're probably only going to have 11 spots on their roster and, you know, I think that's why I got even that much more angry that at least each player didn't get a little package shown about them, you know? And at least a little moment, because, you know, the moments that…I mean there are first round draft picks that could very likely not make their rosters this year. And it's hard to stomach. Because you think it's different. People are like, oh, well, you know, it's just kind of the same in the NBA, yeah, but the NBA, how many teams they have? Like 28, 30?

Amira: Right. Michael’s like, there's only 12 teams?!

Lindsay: There's only 12 teams. Like, there were only there only 36 draft picks. So the fact that like maybe a third of them will make a roster is just…

Amira: Right. And the NBA also has farm leagues, so you know, you don't make the main roster, you can go down to D League, you can play within the system still, and that's not the case here. And then we're also dealing with a global pandemic. And so there's a lot of people who would normally be talking to their agents and looking overseas and hoping to get signed to an international team and use that as a stepping stone to come back and play domestic ball or of course supplement their income from the W. And that's completely uncertain. And so I think that it is bittersweet in a way. And also the other part of that is like…I tweeted at one point, Rebecca Lobo was like, oh, well, we'll have to see, Odyssey Sims’s status for the season is fairly uncertain. And I literally screamed, the whole season is uncertain!

Lindsay: Well, and Odyssey Sims is out because she's pregnant. And 

Amira: But it was also like, the season, we don't know. A person’s status may or may not be up in the air. The whole damn apparatus is up in the air! And that was the other thing that was really kind of bittersweet to me about it, is that who knows, like, this might be something that is not even played out. People might not even touch a court.

Lindsay: And that's the thing. And so like, we're talking about how, if this season does go on, it's going to be so hard for any of these players to make a roster, right? Like, there might be like 10 that are fully guaranteed roster spots, you know? Maybe I'm exaggerating a little bit, but not by much. And so then imagine if this season doesn't happen, and so then next year they're competing with the most recent class for rosters spots too. You know what I mean? And it's horrifying. And I've said it before, and I would say it to the faces of the players who worked so hard bargaining for the new contract, that the only thing I was super, super disappointed with about the new contract was that they didn't add any roster spots, you know? And I understand, like, they probably would've needed to up the salary cap, or at least down the maximum contracts, because like I said, there are teams who already have given the salary cap are already going only going to keep 11 teams.

But you know, especially now with the global economy taking such a downturn, right? It's going to take years to fully recover from it. And that's going to make it harder to add in more teams. And it's sad because the talent coming out of women's college basketball on a year in year out basis, not to mention now from abroad, from overseas, right, where a lot of players are not coming to the NCAA but deciding to go pro and play in those leagues. Like, the talent coming out is just as high of a level at this point now as the NBA, you know? It took a while to get here, but like, this is where we are, right? There's just as many great prospects coming out, but with a 10th, you know, because there's no G league to go to, to have the opportunities for advancement, and it's scary and it's sad. 

Amira: Yep. And I mean, I think that that's, you know, maybe a good place to wrap it.

Lindsay: [laughs] On a happy note.

Amira: You know, I think that that B minus really is apt, right? Like, there are some great, great things that happened. And I love watching…You know, I had asked, what would this do for coverage? I felt certainly like there was a lot of people, there was just like a kind of palpable energy around the draft that I haven't seen in the last few years. And that was very exciting. There was some golden moments, there were some frustrating things, and there's this kind of bittersweet reality to it. And so a lot of it is uncertain. A lot of it is still a work in progress. But for one night, at least we had sports, [laughs] and we got to see a few really great things, and a lot of places that we'll all continue to push on and work on and report about.

Lindsay: And there was an effort to give some of these players a moment and to try and keep the momentum going that the league has gotten in the offseason. And as much as I complain, because I do, and as much as I'm going to keep criticizing and pushing for things to be better, because I think they deserve to be, it was good to see an actual effort be put in to get this draft to happen. 

Amira: Yup. Yup. So, shoutout to all who are drafted, who tuned in, who were reporting on it. I don't even know what's next, [laughter] but again, you know, what I’ll be waiting for is my Atlanta Dream reality TV show shit series. But in the meantime…

Lindsay: We need to pitch that to someone. Maybe that could happen. 

Amira: Yeah, definitely. Well, until then, flamethrowers, this has been a hot take. And we'll see you soon.